VBGamer

That is what I've been trying Adam, and I can't really paste the code because its quite long and its the whole loading\saving of my world data. I've used this method many times before and its worked, so I guess I'm doing something else wrong so I'll have another look. If I can't figure it out I'll try posting the code. One more thing it might be is I put a D3DVERTEX, eg: Dim d3dvert as D3DVERTEX 'set up vertex data open file... put #1, ,d3dvert close file Is it wrong to just write the whole vertex in one put statement?